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  • amsgc
    02-04 02:12 AM
    See response below.

    Folks,

    I am not a naysayer, I think the IV core team has done a great job of giving a voice to us.

    But, there are a few questions that I am not convinced myself:

    1. why remove per country quota just for EB, why not family based immigration as well?

    => Unlike family based immigration, Employment based immigration is based on the expressed need of US businesses for skilled labor. The position filled by EB based immigrants are first advertised in the local market, and if a US Citizen or LPR is not found with the requisite skills, only then is that job offered to a foreigner with the requisite skills. This means that the foreigner is needed by the US business to perform services on a permanent basis. In essence, the US gets a well trained and experienced foreign worker who is able to contribute to the economy on the day he gets his Green Card. It is very important to note that this job offer is made solely on the skills, education and experience of the foreigner, and the need expressed by a business. Also note that these individuals constitute only 14% of total immigration.

    On the other hand, there is absolutely no information on how an individual who comes in through family based immigration will be able to find a job, and start contributing to the economy. I am not saying that these individuals are incompetent, only that there is no data on how they will fit in. If you look around you, you will find that most people who enter the US through family based immigration lack language skills, are much older, and find it difficult to start over and assimilate in a new country. Many end up doing odd jobs which can be really frustrating for them. Since there is really no business need for these individuals in this country, and because they are whopping 86% of all immigration, a cap on family based immigration does make sense.

    You also need to understand the other important difference – most EB folks have already assimilated into this culture – they have been here for several years, worked a couple of jobs and in many cases attended US graduate schools.



    2. what will happen after removing per country limits, what kind of numbers are we looking at? how many new PRs? What is the impact on the country,economic, social, cultural, I do care about the USA.

    => The result of removing per country limits will be that every individual will be given an equal opportunity to immigrate to the US based on their skills, education, and the specific need expressed by a US business. It will be a system where everybody gets in one line - first in, first out. Some will say that the current system is fair because every "country" gets a fair chance. But that is just and attempt to mislead. The "country" does not file a petition to immigrate; it is a skilled individual who files a petition to immigrate based on his skills, education and his requirement in the US.

    Regarding numbers - I will give you a simple example. My GC process was started 3 years ago. My co-worker, who is from a non-retrogressed country, started his application last year. We both applied in the same category, and work in similar positions. We also have similar skills - US MS in CS. Because of the country caps, my application is still pending, whereas he already got his GC. If the country caps were removed, my wait time would have reduced by a year, his wait time would have increased by a year - we both would get the GC after waiting approximately the same amount of time. It would have been a first in, first out system. But it is not so, and it needs to be fixed.

    Like you, we all care about the USA. I assure you that it will have only a positive social and cultural impact on the US. Why? Because removal of country caps would lead to a system that is based solely on merit and hard work. Isn't that what this country is about?

    Regarding diversity – the individuals from retrogressed countries are already here, assimilating into the American fabric. Whether you give them the GC now or ten years from now, they will still be here - it will not change the ethnic character of this country.

    3. By asking legislators to remove these per country quota limits, isn't this a paradigm shift in thinking?

    => This is not a paradigm shift. If you open your eyes and ears you will find hundreds of organizations set up across the US to educate and influence lawmakers about policies that should be put in place to better serve this country.

    When I, a guy impacted by this EB backlog am not convinced, how the heck are we going to make a case to some congressman/woman?

    => Once you begin to feel the pain, you will understand. Perhaps you are new to the system, and are hoping that it will get better. It will not be long before you will suddenly find that a good number of years have gone by just waiting.

    We should definitely move away from this snobbish view that EB folks are better than others, or that the USA needs the EB folks more than EB folks need the USA.

    => I am not sure where you get that EB folks are snobbish. It is not our issue - so whatever FB folks decide, it is up to them. Also, nobody said USA needs more EB folks, US businesses need the EB folks for whom a petition to immigrate has been filed and approved. Get the difference?


    That said, I do believe that we have a humanitarian case for folks like us who are already in the queue. Educating congress about the path taken by the average EB immigrant would help.
    => You just contradicted yourself. A few sentences ago you seemed to imply that you really did not understand what could be gained by removing the country caps.


    At the end of the day human life is human life even it is it Indian.
    => Really don't know what you are trying to say here. Anyway, if you feel the need to respond to this message, please do so after updating your profile.





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  • pappu
    07-01 10:23 PM
    QUESTIONNAIRE FOR POTENTIAL PLAINTIFFS
    USCIS VISA BULLETIN/VISA AVAILABILITY LITIGATION
    This document is a form, which means that you can only type in the areas within each box. Click in the boxes and start typing. If your answers are longer than the box provided, please use a separate sheet of paper. For the check boxes, click in the correct box to mark it. Thank you!
    Please be sure to include a copy of the following with this questionnaire:
    • Completed I-485 as submitted to USCIS, and any cover letter sent with it;
    • Evidence of method and date of mailing (USPS, Fed Ex, etc)
    • A list or index of attachments sent with the I-485 (if the cover letter provides the list or index, no need to send us a separate one)
    • USCIS letter rejecting the adjustment application and / or any related correspondence, if received.
    Date questionnaire is completed:
    Completed by:
    Attorney Contact Information:
    Name
    Email
    Firm
    Address
    Telephone
    Fax
    Adjustment Applicant Information:
    Name
    Address
    Phone
    Email
    Nationality or citizenship
    Adjustment Application Filing Information:
    Date adjustment application was submitted to USCIS and method of submission:
    Where was the adjustment sent? (Please note the specific DHS(USCIS) office)
    What was the employment-based immigrant category under which the adjustment application applied?
    USCIS rejection of the adjustment application:
    Did DHS (USCIS) expressly inform the applicant or attorney, orally or in writing, why it was rejecting or returning the adjustment application?
    If yes, please explain in detail:
    Please send us a copy of any written notice or other correspondence from USCIS rejecting or returning the adjustment application.
    2
    Harm to adjustment applicant:
    Please describe any harm that the adjustment applicant has suffered or is continuing to suffer due to the rejection of the adjustment application.
    Please return this form and documents by email or fax to:
    visabulletin@ailf.org
    or fax (202) 742-5619 attn. AILF LAC





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  • gclabor07
    10-19 09:31 PM
    Folks,

    I was just looking at the Obama and McCain websites just to see how they look from design standpoint (I'm a UI designer by profession). I happened to read their views on Immigration. I was surprised to see that Obama's views were extremely vague and offered no solutions to retain or encourage highly skilled immigrant workers. McCain on the other hand has section on highly skilled immigrant workers and talks about retaining them after US education, H1B cap reform, greencard increase to reflect demand etc.

    If you are curious, see for yourself.

    Obama on Immigration:
    http://www.barackobama.com/issues/immigration/

    McCain on Immigration:
    http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/68db8157-d301-4e22-baf7-a70dd8416efa.htm

    Not that any of us are allowed to vote or our opinions matter to these politicians, I thought this presents an interesting comparison.

    Thx.





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  • EB3_SEP04
    06-11 12:49 PM
    I wouldn't worry about this.. this bill is in embyonic stage, hundreds of such ridiculous bills are persented each years and they never make it to either house or senate floors for voting. Remember US politicians all the time "propose" or "talk about" such crazy bills to make happy the crazy segment of voters in their constituency and to make a buzz in the media. This is nothing more than Rakhi sawant accusing Mika of kissing. Nothing is going to happen without the full fledge CIR. Anyone believes the country which gives amnesty to illegals every 10-15 years will take such a nasty step and hurt itself ? Just watch in the months ahead what happens to AZ law or rather it's (non)implementation.



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  • brick2006
    11-11 03:06 AM
    he cant act on immigration when the economy is down and ppl are losing their jobs..so we are in a sinking boat...
    better to wait and watch!!!





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  • kumar1
    12-10 02:02 PM
    There used to be a guy called VLDRAO.....self proclaimed DOS visa bulletin expert. Where is he these days? I would love to hear from him.


    VLDRAO......save us!!!!!



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  • jonty_11
    12-12 04:13 PM
    USCIS is not a legislative body, they cannot pass a law. The Congress does. In order to change any existing laws Congress has to pass it and USCIS just implements it. So I do not think meeting USCIS will help. BTW what is DOS ?





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  • dilber
    06-26 05:28 PM
    May be you scared the USCIS with your phone calls and they just wanted you out of their systems. So that you don't rally other people and then they might have to really become efficient.:cool:

    BTW really happy for you... enjoy:o

    I got a red for this with comment "bhaag saale, really happy for you? kaam c=dhanda nahi hai kya?"
    Translation: Get lost you idiot, happy for you? don't you have any other work?

    Not that I care about it too much but shouldn't highly skilled people be more responsible, and courteous. :cool:



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  • vaishnavilakshmi
    07-07 07:35 PM
    HI,

    category-eb3
    pd-feb2002
    i-140 mailed on 1st june2007.
    i-485-mailed on 29th june and reached uscis on 30th june 2007 at 11am for concurrent filing with the earlier i-140(reciept).

    Will update u if any changes in the status.

    goodluck,
    vaishu





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  • 12samanta
    07-02 03:56 PM
    Guys, Do not waste time in debating on the forum. If someone creates the petition then i will support and atleast send it to all my friends asking them to sign the petition. Lets do it.



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  • sledge_hammer
    02-14 12:49 PM
    To answer your question, no, I'm not a conservative Christian. I'm a Hindu and I'm proud of it!

    Now that I have answered your question, allow me ask YOU a few questions:

    1. If I really were a Conservative Christian, does my belief that Jew were persecuted hold any less credibility?
    2. Are you an anti semite?
    3. Are you friends with Ahmedenejad?
    4. Do you watch a lot of Mel Gibson movies when you're not otherwise writing nonsense on this forum? :)

    Are you a jew or are you asking this because you are a conservative Christan and you believe that jews are special because Christ was jew at the time of birth? Not that there is anything wrong with either, but I just wanted to know.

    "What I believe" - What difference does it make? Why do you ask? You see its a matter of perspective. Someone may feel extremely miserable going through the process and its possible that that person may chose to compare this experience with the real victims of ethnic cleansing. Just because there is no violence involved, it doesn't mean that things cannot be comparable. Mental agony and silent torture in even worst when compared with physical violence because one is dying every moment you live. You may argue that we are all dying every moment we live, then isn't life just a torture?

    Its not necessary that others MUST believe or experience their life the way you or I do. Everybody lives through a different experience. You may not agree with their version or their perspective, but it is not reasonable to force someone to draw comparison based on what you believe. And this is what I believe.

    .





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  • nomi
    12-13 11:01 AM
    I needed a few days to digest the argument I had last week with some members. I've been reading this entire thread since yesterday and it all make sense to me; it seems a very logic and smart thing to do, so count on me.


    my Friend,

    don`t worry about any arguments you had in past. I say sorry if some member say something wrong or unlogical. Please don`t waste your energy in negative thinking and come and help all of us and be our hero in this hard time. we are all here for same cause and we should be united as team and focus like a laser beam.

    We need you and every member is most valueable part of IV and consider him or her right hand of core team.

    I hope you got my point and let`s come and join us along with IV core team with this new option.

    thx.



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  • glus
    07-28 09:31 AM
    If you see the letter and spirit of clause in the said notification, an employment letter is not required and adjudicator has to send RFE if he feels required. File with latest paystubs. If RFE sent to you , then again file latest paystub to show that you was in employment with that employer from the date of filing 485 petition and for at least another 6-7 months further to that date.

    Please don't spread incorrect statements. An employment letter is part of initial evidence and one of the most important things in the whole employment=based cases. Paystubs only show that you work, but they don't show what you do. I485 can't be approved without CURRENT employment verification letter. In fact, people whose I485 are pending for a long time (2-3 years) very often receive a RFE for an updated (current) employment letter since the original letter sent with application is simply too old. That is a fact, and not rumor. If you don't believe, review I485 instructions which say that employment letter must be there as initial evidence.





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  • rbms
    10-15 08:29 PM
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  • PresidentO
    02-04 11:58 AM
    Actually country quota may be unfair based on skills. But green card is not the selection of brightest in interview or test. All the cases of gc are tested and everyone are equally important. For example scientist in Nasa and a Programmer in a Tech company are important. If really see merrit Nasa scientist must have priority. But really everyone is important as they are important for their employer. So having country quota will not select any incapable persons as every candidate is tested.

    Also even if country quota is eliminated there is not going to be much difference in EB3(May be 6 month to 1 year PD difference). If you put calculations you can understand very well because unused quota is used in last quarter. Better calculate before starting compaign. May be another few thousand Visas could be utilized as Visas may not be wasted. If Recapture bill is passed with or without country quota then entire EB3 will be benefited. Otherwise it is just helpful to spoil the chances of row people at the same time it will not give much benefit to EB3 Indians.
    I remember that EB3 persons were angry with EB2 people for a few months as they got all of other countries EB2.


    Dude! Skills based mean not because of your country. That is it. Stop there. What people are clamoring for is single line as both the Nasa scientist and programmer are equally important to their employer. Now, no one knows who will get out first even though he/she has both merit/old pd and other crap. Country cap removal is not the only solution. Recapture with carry over going forward and/or increase of EB numbers to 250K or above is the complete solution.





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  • ImmiLosers
    11-22 12:26 AM
    I am unable to find USCIS internal I-140 adjudication manual. This could be my lifeline. Someone please provide link for it. Thanks!



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  • feedfront
    11-02 12:43 PM
    RFE : Sep 10 2010,

    Did you receive physical card?





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  • Legal_In_A_Limbo
    03-20 09:13 AM
    Can any one share with me the AC-21 offer letter + Employer verification format?

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  • The7zen
    01-22 12:38 PM
    No, people with all personalities exist every where. I just took two typical cases. Does Warren Buffet care about car or home he has? His happiness lies in multiplying his wealth (bank account), not in expensive cars/homes. Wealth, big homes, GC, etc. have nothing to do with peace of mind. The moment we get our GC, our happiness level will go up momentarily, and then after a while we'll find things to be unhappy again.

    Case in question above, where a GC seeker gets up at 5am in a nicely furnished home, and gets to work, is entirely his choosing for happiness with material things. He knowingly choose to sacrifice his peace of mind for more material wealth.

    We always pay in some form for any happiness we seek.

    Well said.

    My Happiness lies whenever i strike a balance between both the scenarios you mentioned...some years its well balanced and some years the scale tends to tip on one side (but does not make me sad or atleast i dont let it make me sad)...I just try to keep an eye on the scale and try to balance it accordingly.....:)





    chanduv23
    07-13 01:57 PM
    A RALLY IS BEING ORGANIZED IN SAN JOSE TOMORROW. PLEASE CHANNELIZE ALL YOUR POSITIVE ENERGY IN ACCOMPLISHING THIS TASK.
    DONT WASTE TIME ON NEGATIVE ENERGY.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10086





    jcgc
    02-21 10:03 AM
    Ok guys before you shoot it down heres my calc for EB2 pending apps from 2000 to Dec 2003. Obviously its a rough estimate, who knows how many eb3s switched, labor subs etc etc etc.

    From pending apps from 2000 to 2003 dec are about 96. Assume represents 1% of total population so it would be 9600. Each app has about 1.5 dependents so about 15,000? If you assume as lower say 0.5% then number would obviously increase to 29,000.

    Ok now shoot me down.


    From ,
    1. In Fy08, there were 189 EB2 India approvals.
    2. Assume annual quota for Eb2 India is X (Correct me if i'm wrong but i think this equates to 2800?)
    3. So 189 approvals = 2800 actual approvals. A ratio of 6.75%.

    Upto Dec31, 03, there are still about 330 or so pending Eb2 India cases. Using the 6.75% representation, it would mean that there are about 4900 Eb2 India cases pending.



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